Interview with Ryan C Coleman

Billy the Kid by Ryan C. Coleman shows the notorious bad guy in a completely different light. 

This book takes readers on a journey with William Bonney, aka Billy the Kid, from the age of fourteen when he became an orphan, to fifteen when he was a prison inmate, to sixteen, an escaped outlaw, and at the age of seventeen, a killer. 

New Mexico in the 1870s is not yet a state, but a territory. The center of power is the Santa Fe Ring. They are a group of wealthy politicians, businessmen, and landowners who exercise power through organized crime, theft, graft, and murder. Billy falls in with a gang of ruthless rustlers and murderers who work as muscle for the House. But when Billy crosses one of the members, the gang sets out to kill him. Billy narrowly escapes, finding refuge under the tutelage of John Tunstall, an English immigrant new to the territory who has his sights set on opening a business in Lincoln, intent on competing directly with the House. But when Tunstall is murdered by those working for the House, any positive effect the mentor had on Billy is eradicated. Billy has only one thought, to get revenge for his friend and mentor’s murder. 

The Lincoln County War, in which, Billy becomes intertwined, is between Lawrence Murphy, a merchant with connections to the notorious Santa Fe Ring. On the other side is Alexander McSween, a young lawyer, and John Tunstall a merchant and rancher from England with a rival store. The competition soon moves into bloodshed. Out of a sense of loyalty, Billy takes the side of McSween and Tunstall, fighting on the side of “The Regulators.”  It was here that he became an outlaw, only because The Regulators did not have the power and influence on their side of the law.

Anyone who loves westerns will be fascinated with this book that breaks down all the discrepancies about Billy the Kid.  Coleman shows him as more of a gunman protecting his friends than a psychopathic killer. There is plenty of action that will keep readers pinned to their seat.

Elise Cooper: Do you agree the portrayal of Billy the Kid was that he was a psychopath?

Ryan Coleman: This was an inspiration.  The movies showed him as a psychopath with bullets whizzing.  This did not ring true for me. I wrote this book to put his life in context, since he was 14 – 21 years during the period. 

EC:  How did you get interested in Billy the Kid?

RC:  It started with the movie “Young Guns” when I was a child. Over the years I was consumed so I searched for every documentary and book I could find. 

EC:  Would this be made into a movie or TV show?

RC: I thought this book might make a good limited series.  My background is from the film and TV world as a writer. I met up with the screenwriter, Shane Salerno, who now represents novelists.  He suggested I write this novel. This is when I decided to write a book.

EC:  Do you think Billy is really a hero?

RC: I would not go as far as to call him a hero.  New Mexico where Billy resided was an extremely corrupt territory, not even a state yet. A 100% true story is when he gets arrested at the age of 14 or 15. This older guy asked him to hold some blankets and some guns that were stolen. But Billy gets busted and is taken to jail where he escapes. This is a pivotal moment in his life.  Unfortunately, circumstances created Billy the Kid and worked against him.

EC: Who were his influences?

RC: I think he was looking for a family.  He never knew his father and his stepfather was not very nice. He was looking for a mentor and father figure. He found it with John Tunstall.  Funny how he was always portrayed in the movies as an elderly wise ‘sit on my knee’ type of mentor. In actuality, he was only twenty-seven years. 

He was also influenced by his favorite song, “Silver Threads Among the Gold.” The words were a metaphor for him not having control of his own life. He was pulled by a force greater than himself into the Lincoln County War, and not able to control his own destiny. As the book goes on, every time he dreams he gets a little further into the dark woods.

EC:  How would you describe who he was before Billy the Kid, Henry?

RC: He was a sharpshooter, clever, quick, and calm.

EC:  What about Billy the Kid?

RC:  He liked to taunt people, loyal, and took to revenge.  He was fearless, cold-blooded, charming, and felt whatever he did was justified to protect his friends. Once Tunstall, his mentor, was killed in front of him a switch was flipped.  At the time he was 17 or 18 years. He needed a meaning to his life, which ended up being retribution for his friend’s murder.

EC:  What role did the Buck Morton character play in the story?

RC:  He was a real person. He was really part of the bad gang, The Boys, and was killed by Billy’s group, The Regulators. After Billy joined up with The Boys, there was a member of that gang who was jealous of Billy because he believed his girlfriend had the hots for him. They wanted to kill Billy, which caused him to leave that gang. I used Buck as that person and made it his girlfriend.  I wrote in the story how she did not have the hots for Billy, but Buck believed she did. I used Buck as the connection between that event and how the Regulators killed Buck. This is where the fiction slipped into the historical fiction.

EC: What about Jesse Evans?

RC: He was the head of the gang, The Boys.  He had a very nasty streak. He acted as muscle and protection for Billy’s enemies.

EC: Did the corruptness in New Mexico cause Billy not to get a fair shake?

RC: That is true. The Lincoln County War was the story of organized crime. The corruptness was off the chart including the Governor. They had power that went all the way to the White House.  To enrich themselves they ruled through criminality. There were so many moving pieces to create the perfect storm that pulled Billy into the Lincoln County War where he became a legendary figure. There were actual records of how he spoke and thought. His friends who lived told of a completely different side of him, which was never shown on screen. Although his brother did not speak a lot about Billy. After Billy escaped from prison, they never saw each other again. 

EC:  What do you want the reader to get out of it?

RC:  Being depicted as a psychopath did not line up with everything I learned about him. 

EC: Do you think circumstances influenced who Billy became?

RC: His backstory was one of trauma.  His mother died when he was fourteen, while his stepfather abandoned him and wanted nothing to do with him. Everything I heard about him was that he was affable, charming, smart, literate, and personable. I think if his mother did not die when he was fourteen, there would never have been a Billy the Kid. His mother’s death combined with his stepfather abandoning him set off a chain of events.  It left a void in his life.

EC:  Next book?

RC:  I am thinking of writing something in the crime thriller genre.

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